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Single point barbless hooks at Lake Sammamish Jan 1st thru April 30th?
Am I reading my regs right? I guess i can't throw a crankbait until May? Maybe I'll fish somewhere else.
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Permalink Reply by Mark Maderos on
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That a boy WDFW, way to screw the pooch again. I'm sure the have "legitimate" reasons behind this thinking. But the beauty is I have never seen WDFW out there enforcing anything. So my attitude will be "fish on" ....
Mark
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Permalink Reply by Daniel Caffrey on
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Well, if I win tonights Mega Millions I'll be buying Lake Sammamish just to change the rule.
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Permalink Reply by Jon Sessler on
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Mark, and Dana - count me in!
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Permalink Reply by Mike Bess on
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I'm calling the fish cops...
Jon Sessler said:Mark, and Dana - count me in!
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Permalink Reply by Marc Marcantonio on
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We offered a reasonable solution; apparently WDFW opted for unreasonable...
Reducing fishing opportunities is rarely the answer to improving fish populations; your job should be to increase fishing opportunity, not to reduce it!
Way to go, WDFW, once again instead of managing fish populations you choose to manage social behavior at the expense of those who pay your salaries. Can you be anymore tone deaf???
Educate me if I am wrong, I would love to hear it!
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Permalink Reply by Tag Watson on
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Very well articulated, Marc.
Dana/Mark/Jon - Decoy makes some great quad hooks as well. I highly recommend.
Marc Marcantonio said:We offered a reasonable solution; apparently WDFW opted for unreasonable...
Reducing fishing opportunities is rarely the answer to improving fish populations; your job should be to increase fishing opportunity, not to reduce it!
Way to go, WDFW, once again instead of managing fish populations you choose to manage social behavior at the expense of those who pay your salaries. Can you be anymore tone deaf???
Educate me if I am wrong, I would love to hear it!
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Permalink Reply by Larry Sullivan on
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I believe this is a vague understanding and will be clarified... This appears to only involve the Issaquah Creek boundary with the closure area, when not in closure time frame.
Aug. 16-Nov. 30: within 100 yards of the mouth of Issaquah Creek.
ALL SPECIES - Jan. 1-Apr. 30: single-point barbless hooks required.
Will send off e-mails to look for clarification.
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Permalink Reply by Zack B on
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I believe those two lines are unrelated. Here is a screenshot of the Lake Sammamish special rules section, in case you want to see exactly how its printed without having to go download it.
Larry Sullivan said:I believe this is a vague understanding and will be clarified... This appears to only involve the Issaquah Creek boundary with the closure area, when not in closure time frame.
Aug. 16-Nov. 30: within 100 yards of the mouth of Issaquah Creek.
ALL SPECIES - Jan. 1-Apr. 30: single-point barbless hooks required.
Will send off e-mails to look for clarification.
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Zack is correct. The single-point barbless rule applies to the entire lake, and includes bass, during the first quarter of the year.
This rule is one of many examples which divides one class of fishermen (trout) against another class (bass) since it favors one at the expense of the other.
It clearly demonstrates that WDFW has no clue what it takes to catch bass.
It shows they do not care about anglers who fish for the most popular game fish in the USA.
It shows they fail to realize how much of their pay comes from the bass angling community (the bulk of the Sport Fishing Restoration Act funds collected by the Federal Government, and rebated each year back to the States based upon number of fishing licenses sold).
WDFW had other solutions with equal effectiveness to reduce accidental hooking mortality of trout. They simply could have imposed the same rule, but added a clause that the new rule only applys to lures less than 3 inches in length. Then bass anglers could continue to fish and the trout would be fine. But like I said, this new rule as written makes it clear that WDFW is either ignorant of who pays their salary, or they simply do not care, or both.
The mission of the WDFW is to manage fish populations to provide more opportunities for both harvest and recreation. Rules are written as a management tool to achieve this mission. When the rule and the mission conflict, the rule needs to be fixed. WDFW also needs to learn the people who pay their salaries are their customers.
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Permalink Reply by Willie Parsons on
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I would like to see the studies that led to this decision. Seems the new rule is favoring Kokanee, I don't know about anyone else but I have never caught one in Sammamish. Are Kokanee historically in this chain and in danger of existence? I am amazed how much effort/stocking is placed on Kokanee around this state and would like to understand their significance.
I know small mouth love them and appreciate the fact that they are stocked in local lakes! -
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Great post and excellent points as always, Marc.
Willie, it is a misconception that smallmouth forage on Kokanee. They merely chase them on occasion for fun and exercise. -
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Marc,
I would say their mission "used" to be to manage fish populations for both harvest and recreation, the problem is, like with MOST government agencies, their primary mission is to protect their bureaucracy first, and control those who they write rules for second.
Marc Marcantonio said:The mission of the WDFW is to manage fish populations to provide more opportunities for both harvest and recreation. Rules are written as a management tool to achieve this mission. When the rule and the mission conflict, the rule needs to be fixed. WDFW also needs to learn the people who pay their salaries are their customers.
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