I'm probably the least superstitious guy out there but when something happens time and time again it starts to make you wonder. I pulled up on a flat in the middle of the day at the Riffe Lake tournament last Saturday and hooked a pretty good fish on the very first cast. The fish had a follower that came all the way to the boat so I figured I might be on a pretty good school of fish. I ended up losing the fish right at the boat which bummed me out a little bit (my net blew out of the boat in the morning). I fished about 400 more yards of the flat without even a bite. I know that a lost fish can spook away a school of fish but not for the enitre area. This has happened to me so many times where I hook a fish on the first cast on the spot and go another hour or so without a bite. The funny thing is that it usually seems to happen on an area like a flat where it seems like kind of a random deal.
Has anyone else experienced the same thing?
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Chris,
My advice is to land the first fish hooked..
Chris , wazzz up bro !
Hey man Jeff and i lost our net during blastoff on riffe also ..lol I got too watch 2 fish jump right out my hand back into the water that saturday , bummer ! Now as far fish on the first cast goes , well i have always been told that was a bad thing , At this point in life i dont buy into that theory i think its just a mental game that anglers play with themselves way too often ..lol
As for your lost fish chris , i do believe that bass release some sort of mechanism that warns other bass if not all fish that "Danger chris is here again" ...I became aware of such activity about 12 years ago fishing for crappie and in the south . Whenever i got on a school of crappie and caught a couple , after i immediately released them near that same school all of the crappie would shut down for awhile ! hmmm , good question
Thanks Mike. You are wise beyond your years!
Mike Bess said:Chris,
My advice is to land the first fish hooked..
Thanks Chris. I tried to give Sessler advice once but he's a lost cause. So is his partner Brian.
Chris Lambert said:Thanks Mike. You are wise beyond your years!
Mike Bess said:Chris,
My advice is to land the first fish hooked..
Chris, good question, makes me think of the word conundrum..... so here's my conjecture. If you figure that all fish in a given area are at varying levels of aggressiveness, meaning like all creatures we are not all as aggressive as one another, there has to be a "One" most agressive fish in an area. The shallower the area the less water for fish to be present in and the amount of cover and forage can dramatically reduce that area as habitat even further, reducing the number of aggressive fish.. So on a flat, you may only have a limited number of "Most aggressive fish that bite your offering". This might explain the first cast, fish caught result. I too have had the same experience, and did at Riffe also.
I've theorized that what turns the fish off, whether its a lost fish or returning a caught fish, is the behavior of the fish once its back amongst the others. No it not a secret hand shake or the fish screaming bloody murder "Its fishermen RUNNN!! This behavior or body language would be more analogous to that kid in the classroom that gets a tongue lashing from the teacher and all the other kids get silent, in that the fish mirror the behavior of the caught fish... and also maybe because its the "Most agressive Alpha fish" like many other species.
In that situation all you can really do is change your presentation, if what your doing has become ignored or leave and come back later. To go find that next Most Agressive fish in an area is the trick, I have not mastered. Easier said than done as evidenced by my results on Riffe.
I know for sure that schooled up smallies will alert the school if they are released or lost and they go back to the group. This is why "some people" end up with 20 or 30 fish in their live wells during team tournaments before they leave a group of fish so they can cull.
BigBass Dez said:Chris , wazzz up bro !
Hey man Jeff and i lost our net during blastoff on riffe also ..lol I got too watch 2 fish jump right out my hand back into the water that saturday , bummer ! Now as far fish on the first cast goes , well i have always been told that was a bad thing , At this point in life i dont buy into that theory i think its just a mental game that anglers play with themselves way too often ..lol
As for your lost fish chris , i do believe that bass release some sort of mechanism that warns other bass if not all fish that "Danger chris is here again" ...I became aware of such activity about 12 years ago fishing for crappie and in the south . Whenever i got on a school of crappie and caught a couple , after i immediately released them near that same school all of the crappie would shut down for awhile ! hmmm , good question
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Mike Bess said:Thanks Chris. I tried to give Sessler advice once but he's a lost cause. So is his partner Brian.
Chris Lambert said:Thanks Mike. You are wise beyond your years!
Mike Bess said:Chris,
My advice is to land the first fish hooked..
I know you're trying to confuse me with all of the big words. Just remember....130!
Steve Hastings said:Chris, good question, makes me think of the word conundrum..... so here's my conjecture. If you figure that all fish in a given area are at varying levels of aggressiveness, meaning like all creatures we are not all as aggressive as one another, there has to be a "One" most agressive fish in an area. The shallower the area the less water for fish to be present in and the amount of cover and forage can dramatically reduce that area as habitat even further, reducing the number of aggressive fish.. So on a flat, you may only have a limited number of "Most aggressive fish that bite your offering". This might explain the first cast, fish caught result. I too have had the same experience, and did at Riffe also.
I've theorized that what turns the fish off, whether its a lost fish or returning a caught fish, is the behavior of the fish once its back amongst the others. No it not a secret hand shake or the fish screaming bloody murder "Its fishermen RUNNN!! This behavior or body language would be more analogous to that kid in the classroom that gets a tongue lashing from the teacher and all the other kids get silent, in that the fish mirror the behavior of the caught fish... and also maybe because its the "Most agressive Alpha fish" like many other species.
In that situation all you can really do is change your presentation, if what your doing has become ignored or leave and come back later. To go find that next Most Agressive fish in an area is the trick, I have not mastered. Easier said than done as evidenced by my results on Riffe.
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