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Planning on trying my luck at flipping and pitchin this year and was wondering what would be a good rod to start off with. I have been looking at the St.Croix Mojo bass rod as well at the Shimano Clarus. Just curios on what else may be out there, locally, for purchase. Not quite ready for a Loomis.

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Thanks Russ, I think I will speak for most everyone on this site and say that details are good, everyone on here is trying to learn and vagueness does not help anyone fill in the whole picture.

Russ Baker said:
Ron,

My bad I meant to say I pitch with that Loomis spinning rod every now and then small jigs in heavy cover such as the Potholes. Yes Ron 95% of my flipping and pitching is done with a baitcaster. I have found that using that 7' spinning rod in the holes to pitch with that I can pitch much farther with it than using the casting rod. I will also use plastics for further distance with the spinning outfit for pitching.

For example when you have about 60 feet of lay downs I like to use the spinning rod for better distance. I first use the bait caster in the lay downs for close quarter flipping and pitching then switch to the spinning rod. Or sometimes you have laydowns the first 30 feet or so and behind the laydowns you will see open water is another time when I utilize the spinning reel for greater distance to get my bait way back in that open water. How is that Ron? Now granted you might have to plow your boat in to that stuff to get that fish out or have a real long net.

I am seeing now that I need to be more deatiled when explaining my methods as to why I fish the way I do. Being vague on this site just doesnt work
Ronald Hobbs, Jr. said:
Russ you are contradicting your self again

"Now flipping with a spinning outfit makes no since and I don't do." This is your last sentence of your last reply. (you spelled "sense" wrong and forgot "it")

Now here is your first sentence in your reply to the topic of Flipping with a Spinning Reel "I use a 7' loomis spinning rod heavy action to flip certain baits"

These are both in quotations if you did not notice, this is what YOU wrote.

You obviously state that you DO flip with a spinning rod and then you say it does not make any sense so you pretty much are saying that "Russ Baker makes no sense!" Since you said YOU DO know the difference between flipping and pitching you had to know what you were writing and replying to.

You keep avoiding the questions of when where why how with your posts please elaborate. I am here to learn as well, but so far your posts are just contradicting one another so as I see it your fishing information holds no credibiltiy, please make it credible. The whens and whys are what I learn from not the materialistic stuff.

BTW when you get better using those baitcasters you can start putting down the spinning rods down more, I can skip or pitch any jig under overhanging branches or under docks just as good if not better, it just takes practice practice practice. Since you have been doing this since the '70's you think you would have already mastered this ;)

Russ Baker said:
Ordella is no longer in biz anymore and yes they were made from Rainshadow blanks. I pro staffed for them for two years and am still fishing with them.

I have been pitching and flipping since the mid 70's oh thats right before most of the guys in ths discussion were born and I do know the difference between the two (Missy).

As far as pitching with a spinning rod Mr Delay its pretty darn easy and extremely accurate if your good at it. It is very effective for slinging small jigs under trees, docks, etc. Have stuck many toads like this when guys with a baitcaster had not a clue how to get a bait in tight situations. Now flipping with a spinning outfit makes no since and I don't do.
Dobins rods are nice! And you should look into that. Got to play with them at Portland show.
What about spinnerbaits? Did you know they call them that because they are designed to be used with spinning tackle?

Ryan Gates said:
i gotta admit i am one of those guys that will pitch a dropshot setup at a dock.

Clif Kincaid said:
How many people pitch dropshots at docks with spinning gear?

Eric DeLay said:
The only people who use spinning gear to flip OR pitch are dumbasses.

Kimihiko Nakamura said:
Pitch and Flip two different technique. 6 meter or less I flip. More of 6 meter I pitch. I Pitch and Flip many jig. I catch many big bass do both technique. Baitcast tackle is best for both technique. Who use spinning rod and why for Pitch and Flip?

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