Civil Disobedience

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Permalink Reply by Big Steve on October 8, 2012 at 8:12pm

Jon,

  Something does need to be done so that we who enjoy fishing warmwater species have are voice heard and listened to. As much as I'd like to not have to buy a license again, I dont think thats the answer. Unfortunatly I don't have the answer.

  I would love to see an economic report done to see how we as warmwater anglers positively effect the economy. I could only imagine its in the millions. Is are state willing to take a chance of losing that?

  I know we as anglers need to stick together to protect what we have no matter where the issue is in this state.

Permalink Reply by Dan Rice on October 8, 2012 at 8:25pm

Emotionally - It would be a great feeling. I find that our group of anglers are often put on the backburner because we've simply been the stepchildren of fishing (in Washington State) when it comes to warmwater species.

Realistically - Tournament organizers would committ suicide if members were fishing without licenses. Getting caught costs 'hundreds' of dollars, and multiple-offenders may have their personal property taken away, permanently. Is it really worth the risk? (Notice the State understands their power here) Organizations wouldn't be allowed to host tournaments. Bunch of legalities here.

Salmon and steelhead recovery is important to me, even though I only get to fish for these species once or twice a year. Why? I think everyone should have the ability to fish for whatever they wish. But why are WE constantly seeing repercussions as bass anglers? Every lake around Spokane has trout, yet we are killing off more lakes and reducing bass populations this year.

As we see more encroachment (speaking of the Columbia) I now see that decisions are made with little research, or research that is often kept anonymous for the simple fact that we are forced to be quiet - until it's too late.

Even if we had the power to impact the sales of fishing licenses, we are forced to oblige sooner or later. It's damned if you do...damned if you don't.

Until then, I'll just wait for the bucket biologists to do their dirty work. And let me tell you...there are A LOT more people who transport fish than you think. Is it right? No, but the lack of respect goes both ways.

Permalink Reply by Mike Bess on October 8, 2012 at 8:34pm

You have obviously dug into the good stuff tonight.  Special occasion?

Permalink Reply by Josh Potter on October 8, 2012 at 8:56pm

Jon,

I am totally with you on this one! Several years ago the state took away a lot of areas where atv's were allowed to be used. I did the math and figured out if I made it 3 years without getting caught then I was money way way ahead. It has been 8 years and I haven't been caught yet. I was paying more and more for less and less areas to use. Needless to say that machine will NEVER be licensed!

Permalink Reply by BigBass Dez on October 9, 2012 at 1:09pm

I understand how you feel about the topic jon , trust me this is complete Bull to say the least.

However , like others have mentioned aboved . Taking the law into your own hands or breaking the law is not the best answer imho bud . I have always felt that due to the fact that the bass community in washington state is extremely small in comparison to the Salmon & trout anglers is what gives us a small voice . It is sooo very obvious that this state is not overly concerned about bass population or the impact that our fisheries will suffer  due too there recent decisions on the columbia river .

 

Sending letters , emails , phone calls , etc are small steps that does sometime make a small difference .

Will it be good enough to overturn the states decision ? I personaly dont think it will !!

The reason i say this is because at the end of day the state of washington is not dependant upon the bass species population to produce the majority of the revenue for olmypia.

 

Our bass tourney events make an impact on local business owners for the most part . Gastations , resturants , hotels , tackle stores , etc . Yes the state makes a little money from the purchase of permits from all of the hosting tourney directors , but outside of that the only other revenue produce is from the purchase of fishing licenese. I honestly believe that contributed to the state going after NW bass for back tax $ . There is no simple answer here guys  .

 

electing the proper officials into office is one way to go , our last president of the USA was a bass angler. Our current nations leader would stare at you with a blank face if he was pose with a quetion in regards to bass fishing in america , are we are feeling the impact of this ?  hell yes , catch my drift :)

 

Your state voters registration card is far more superior than your states fishing license ! Change has to start in Washington , DC in order for it benifit Washington state  ..real talk :)

 

BBD "The sophomore"

Permalink Reply by Jon Sessler on October 9, 2012 at 2:40pm

Does your ATV look like this? Typically there is a bonus to the licenses for these, they also come with a "Parking Pass" (It's blue and hangs from the mirror).

Josh Potter said:

Jon,

I am totally with you on this one! Several years ago the state took away a lot of areas where atv's were allowed to be used. I did the math and figured out if I made it 3 years without getting caught then I was money way way ahead. It has been 8 years and I haven't been caught yet. I was paying more and more for less and less areas to use. Needless to say that machine will NEVER be licensed!

Permalink Reply by Chad Simon on October 9, 2012 at 4:35pm

LMAO! I like the idea; however, I believe we would benefit moving forward if we waited until after the election in November before we made a stand. Even starting a petition that stated we wouldn't purchase fishing licenses next year might get some notoriety. It wouldnt be hard to gather 1,000+ signatures at tournies, club meetings, exc....

Permalink Reply by Aaron Christel on October 9, 2012 at 5:09pm

I like the petition idea. Its enough to get some attention.

Chad Simon said:

LMAO! I like the idea; however, I believe we would benefit moving forward if we waited until after the election in November before we made a stand. Even starting a petition that stated we wouldn't purchase fishing licenses next year might get some notoriety. It wouldnt be hard to gather 1,000+ signatures at tournies, club meetings, exc....

Permalink Reply by Mike Bess on October 9, 2012 at 6:48pm

You just sealed your fate......

Jon Sessler said:

Does your ATV look like this? Typically there is a bonus to the licenses for these, they also come with a "Parking Pass" (It's blue and hangs from the mirror).

Josh Potter said:

Jon,

I am totally with you on this one! Several years ago the state took away a lot of areas where atv's were allowed to be used. I did the math and figured out if I made it 3 years without getting caught then I was money way way ahead. It has been 8 years and I haven't been caught yet. I was paying more and more for less and less areas to use. Needless to say that machine will NEVER be licensed!

Permalink Reply by Josh Potter on October 9, 2012 at 7:50pm

It's a freaking misdemeanor not a felony. It's no different than speeding.

BigBass Dez said:

I understand how you feel about the topic jon , trust me this is complete Bull to say the least.

However , like others have mentioned aboved . Taking the law into your own hands or breaking the law is not the best answer imho bud . I have always felt that due to the fact that the bass community in washington state is extremely small in comparison to the Salmon & trout anglers is what gives us a small voice . It is sooo very obvious that this state is not overly concerned about bass population or the impact that our fisheries will suffer  due too there recent decisions on the columbia river .

 

Sending letters , emails , phone calls , etc are small steps that does sometime make a small difference .

Will it be good enough to overturn the states decision ? I personaly dont think it will !!

The reason i say this is because at the end of day the state of washington is not dependant upon the bass species population to produce the majority of the revenue for olmypia.

 

Our bass tourney events make an impact on local business owners for the most part . Gastations , resturants , hotels , tackle stores , etc . Yes the state makes a little money from the purchase of permits from all of the hosting tourney directors , but outside of that the only other revenue produce is from the purchase of fishing licenese. I honestly believe that contributed to the state going after NW bass for back tax $ . There is no simple answer here guys  .

 

electing the proper officials into office is one way to go , our last president of the USA was a bass angler. Our current nations leader would stare at you with a blank face if he was pose with a quetion in regards to bass fishing in america , are we are feeling the impact of this ?  hell yes , catch my drift :)

 

Your state voters registration card is far more superior than your states fishing license ! Change has to start in Washington , DC in order for it benifit Washington state  ..real talk :)

 

BBD "The sophomore"

Permalink Reply by Paul Harmon on October 10, 2012 at 5:58am

Amen brother, we need to elect someone who won't just bend over for the tree huggin peices of crap
 
Dana Steiner said:

Like I have said before! Quit voting in the queers and the tree huggers. Start voting in the rednecks that support fishing, hunting and the "American way of life". This is how this country was founded and operated for many years, maybe we have become a little to liberal to defend ourselves. I also suggest that you vote for individuals with a penis! Can you imagine what the other country leaders say behind closed doors, after meeting with Hillary "butt ugly" Clinton? Put your pants back on men and quit carrying your womans purse! We shouldn't be intimidated by our goverment officials, they should be intimidated by us! Don't ever forget, that we as many pack the hammer. 
 
BigBass Dez said:

I understand how you feel about the topic jon , trust me this is complete Bull to say the least.

However , like others have mentioned aboved . Taking the law into your own hands or breaking the law is not the best answer imho bud . I have always felt that due to the fact that the bass community in washington state is extremely small in comparison to the Salmon & trout anglers is what gives us a small voice . It is sooo very obvious that this state is not overly concerned about bass population or the impact that our fisheries will suffer  due too there recent decisions on the columbia river .

 

Sending letters , emails , phone calls , etc are small steps that does sometime make a small difference .

Will it be good enough to overturn the states decision ? I personaly dont think it will !!

The reason i say this is because at the end of day the state of washington is not dependant upon the bass species population to produce the majority of the revenue for olmypia.

 

Our bass tourney events make an impact on local business owners for the most part . Gastations , resturants , hotels , tackle stores , etc . Yes the state makes a little money from the purchase of permits from all of the hosting tourney directors , but outside of that the only other revenue produce is from the purchase of fishing licenese. I honestly believe that contributed to the state going after NW bass for back tax $ . There is no simple answer here guys  .

 

electing the proper officials into office is one way to go , our last president of the USA was a bass angler. Our current nations leader would stare at you with a blank face if he was pose with a quetion in regards to bass fishing in america , are we are feeling the impact of this ?  hell yes , catch my drift :)

 

Your state voters registration card is far more superior than your states fishing license ! Change has to start in Washington , DC in order for it benifit Washington state  ..real talk :)

 

BBD "The sophomore"

Permalink Reply by Jon Sessler on October 10, 2012 at 8:09am

Dana - we need to have a beer and solve ALL of the country's problems. I think we could do it in about 45 minutes!

Dana Steiner said:

Like I have said before! Quit voting in the queers and the tree huggers. Start voting in the rednecks that support fishing, hunting and the "American way of life". This is how this country was founded and operated for many years, maybe we have become a little to liberal to defend ourselves. I also suggest that you vote for individuals with a penis! Can you imagine what the other country leaders say behind closed doors, after meeting with Hillary "butt ugly" Clinton? Put your pants back on men and quit carrying your womans purse! We shouldn't be intimidated by our goverment officials, they should be intimidated by us! Don't ever forget, that we as many pack the hammer. 
 
BigBass Dez said:

I understand how you feel about the topic jon , trust me this is complete Bull to say the least.

However , like others have mentioned aboved . Taking the law into your own hands or breaking the law is not the best answer imho bud . I have always felt that due to the fact that the bass community in washington state is extremely small in comparison to the Salmon & trout anglers is what gives us a small voice . It is sooo very obvious that this state is not overly concerned about bass population or the impact that our fisheries will suffer  due too there recent decisions on the columbia river .

 

Sending letters , emails , phone calls , etc are small steps that does sometime make a small difference .

Will it be good enough to overturn the states decision ? I personaly dont think it will !!

The reason i say this is because at the end of day the state of washington is not dependant upon the bass species population to produce the majority of the revenue for olmypia.

 

Our bass tourney events make an impact on local business owners for the most part . Gastations , resturants , hotels , tackle stores , etc . Yes the state makes a little money from the purchase of permits from all of the hosting tourney directors , but outside of that the only other revenue produce is from the purchase of fishing licenese. I honestly believe that contributed to the state going after NW bass for back tax $ . There is no simple answer here guys  .

 

electing the proper officials into office is one way to go , our last president of the USA was a bass angler. Our current nations leader would stare at you with a blank face if he was pose with a quetion in regards to bass fishing in america , are we are feeling the impact of this ?  hell yes , catch my drift :)

 

Your state voters registration card is far more superior than your states fishing license ! Change has to start in Washington , DC in order for it benifit Washington state  ..real talk :)

 

BBD "The sophomore"

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