I need some input from you guys. 2-stroke oil question

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Permalink Reply by Chris Blandi on April 9, 2010 at 3:55pm

I run Mercury Premium Plus in mine and thats all it will probably ever use. The Amsoil guys that run the oil in there cars for 10-15k between LOF's are totally brainwashed. It probably runs just fine in a 2 stroke Outboard, but I think you answered your own question.

Permalink Reply by Russ Baker on April 9, 2010 at 5:40pm

I would not go with Amsoil because it could possibly void your warranty if a problem came up. Stick with the manufactures recomended oil.

Permalink Reply by Jim Smith on April 10, 2010 at 9:12am

We have talked about this before Russ and you know how I feel. I've run Amsoil in my ETEC since it was broken in. Same for the Mercury 225 I had prior to the "Rude". It is a great oil that runs extremely clean in the engine and is less expensive than any of the major engine manufacuters oils. I just purchased a Merc 9.9 kicker engine for April's salmon boat and I'll use Amsoil 4-stroke in it also.

Smitty

Permalink Reply by RFatt16 on April 10, 2010 at 2:09pm

Are you running the HPI or something else? The stats/results AMSOIL boasts look unbelievable but I doubt any company is gonna say buy our product were just decent at what we do.

What risks do I run if i suck out all the Quicksilver i have in my res. and fill with HPI, if the res. is not 100% cleaned could there be some issues?


Jim Smith said:

We have talked about this before Russ and you know how I feel. I've run Amsoil in my ETEC since it was broken in. Same for the Mercury 225 I had prior to the "Rude". It is a great oil that runs extremely clean in the engine and is less expensive than any of the major engine manufacuters oils. I just purchased a Merc 9.9 kicker engine for April's salmon boat and I'll use Amsoil 4-stroke in it also.

Smitty

Permalink Reply by Randall J DeFreese on April 10, 2010 at 9:43pm

Although I don't have the knowledge or the answers I did find this on "Bass Boat Central" The other day......
S y n t h e t i c L u b r i c a n t s



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Oil and emissions has become a hot topic with the release of OMCs Ficht Fuel Injected motors as well as Mercury's DFI OptiMax motors. These motors promise to reduce oil consumption and emissions to near 4-stroke levels while still delivering on the 2 cycle's natural advantages of low weight and crisp acceleration. Wouldn't it be great if we could capitalize on those improvements with the current motors we own?
Well, you must might be able to, with today's high performance Synthetic Lubricants. Lubricants - like the motors themselves - have come a long way over the last few years. Today's lubes smoke less and protect better than ever before. The top of the heap, what I would term "Ultralubes", are Synthetic, TCW3 rated, contain no carbon based petroleum products, and can provide those excellent running characteristics I describe in addition to better protection for ultra high rpm race motors.

The advantages are many. Synthetic Lubricants such as Synergyn's TCW-3 rated Outboard Oil will smoke far less, provide better protection, and smell much better than today's premium petroleum based Manufacturer's (Mercury/OMC oil). Due to their basic composition, these "Ashless" formulas do not have carbon to burn, therefore, fouled plugs and excessive carbon buildup on pistons are a thing of the past. In addition, these oils can be mixed at lighter ratios. In today's Mercury 2.5 EFI 260 HiPerf motors, Mercury recommends running their Synthetic Blend formula at 32:1. This is a fine oil, but when run next to Synergyn, it smokes more and smells horribly. In addition, the Synergyn oil can be run safely at 50:1 and it costs less to begin with. This may sound too good to be true, but once you make the switch, you'll be impressed like I was when I first started using the product in my Drag Boat.

Synthetic Gear Lube also carries significant advantages. This lube will provide added protection for a longer time - and actually cost significantly less than the manufacturer's gear lube. We sell our own line of Synthetic Gear Lube called "Rapid Red" that will stick to the gears of your motor far better than typical lube, yet is much slicker than petroleum based lube. Some users have actually seen performance gains from using Synthetic based lubricants.

So, if you're still using your OEM recommended oil, try using Synthetics. Today's synthetics can be mixed with petroleum based oils, so you don't need to run out of your other oil, however to see the full benefit of a synthetic, it's best not to mix the two and try to run a 100% synthetic tank.

Sam Baker, Baker Marine Support, Antioch, IL

Permalink Reply by BARLOW on April 10, 2010 at 10:51pm

I HAVE AN EVINRUDE 225 I RUN XD100 HAVE BEEN SENCE I OWNED IT BUT I'M GOING TO TRY AMS OIL HP INJECTOR THIS COMING YEAR. I HAVE TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE AND THEY RUN IT WITHOUT A PROBLEM SO I'M GIVING IT A SHOT. I DO RUN IT IN MY CUMMINS HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM TO SEEK OF.

Permalink Reply by Gary Lucas on April 10, 2010 at 11:52pm

My two cents. If your not foulling plugs leave it lone. Amsoil is good! Your spark plugs will let you know what is best. No need to change out oil.

Permalink Reply by chris mulch on April 11, 2010 at 7:13am

i have 96 merc 200 efi my dad has 90 175 we have always used quicksilver and they sell it at wall mart 24.00 gallon best price around except when joes had it on sale for 17.99 and yes stick with same oil

Permalink Reply by Russ Baker on April 11, 2010 at 7:18am

Smitty,

Im not knocking the product as stated just wanted to state that some manufactures could void warranties if problem came up as you and I discussed.

Jim Smith said:

We have talked about this before Russ and you know how I feel. I've run Amsoil in my ETEC since it was broken in. Same for the Mercury 225 I had prior to the "Rude". It is a great oil that runs extremely clean in the engine and is less expensive than any of the major engine manufacuters oils. I just purchased a Merc 9.9 kicker engine for April's salmon boat and I'll use Amsoil 4-stroke in it also.

Smitty

Permalink Reply by Harry Hardy on April 13, 2010 at 12:45pm

Hey RFatt16 I use Amsoil HPI in my Evenrude e-tech it is the best 2stroke oil on the market. I am an Amsoil dealer and you do not have to clean out your tank to use it. I would suggest that you empty it before adding the Amsoil. I believe you will be very pleased with the results you get with it. NO SMOKE, Smoother running engine, and just allout better performance from your engine.
PS Been using Amsoil in everything for 12 years. And I'm not trying to sell you my oil.

Permalink Reply by Harry Hardy on April 13, 2010 at 12:56pm

BARLOW said:

I HAVE AN EVINRUDE 225 I RUN XD100 HAVE BEEN SENCE I OWNED IT BUT I'M GOING TO TRY AMS OIL HP INJECTOR THIS COMING YEAR. I HAVE TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE AND THEY RUN IT WITHOUT A PROBLEM SO I'M GIVING IT A SHOT. I DO RUN IT IN MY CUMMINS HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM TO SEEK OF.

Permalink Reply by Harry Hardy on April 13, 2010 at 1:02pm

I had the westcoast rep check out my 225 e-tech last year for other problems and I told him I use Amsoil HPI His quote Hell thats much better oil than ours. However he had to reset the computer to use it and it did not void my warranty.

Harry Hardy said:

BARLOW said:

I HAVE AN EVINRUDE 225 I RUN XD100 HAVE BEEN SENCE I OWNED IT BUT I'M GOING TO TRY AMS OIL HP INJECTOR THIS COMING YEAR. I HAVE TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE AND THEY RUN IT WITHOUT A PROBLEM SO I'M GIVING IT A SHOT. I DO RUN IT IN MY CUMMINS HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM TO SEEK OF.

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