Swim Jig VS Pitching Jig

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Permalink Reply by Josh Potter on November 26, 2013 at 1:57pm

That seems like asking crank bait VS spinner bait. To me you wouldn't pick between the 2 because they are applied differently.

Permalink Reply by Jake Anderson on November 26, 2013 at 3:10pm

I choose a pitching jig when im going deep into the crud.

I use a swimjig when i want a subtle replacement for a spinnerbait.

My average swimjig is much lighter than my average pitching jig, and i am much more picky about weed guards on my pitching jig.

Permalink Reply by Joel Alinen on November 26, 2013 at 6:16pm

Sorry but I disagree I think a swimjig and a jig are much more similar than a crank and spinner potter. And snake when I'm fishing the crud I use a texas rig or a punch rig...I guess the point of the post was I don't see much use for the pitching jig anymore...swimjig and punch rig cover all the bases for me...at least they did this year...but in the past I've crushed em on the Pjs Potholes special...see I guess I can't decide when the pitching jig is "the deal"

Josh Potter said:

That seems like asking crank bait VS spinner bait. To me you wouldn't pick between the 2 because they are applied differently.

Permalink Reply by P.J. Koshi on November 26, 2013 at 11:25pm

Joel you know better than anyone I have taken to the swim jig a lot recently!  But I have a time and place where I will deploy the pitching jig and a time and place I will deploy the punch rig or Texas rig.  When I reflect I have a hard time thinking of a time where I was really on a single bait program that was "the deal". At the time when I'm doing good with a certain bait I might think in my mind that I am on to something awesome with my bait choice.  In reality I feel like it was my confidence with how I was fishing my bait given the conditions at that time that made it special and successful at that time.

Permalink Reply by Tag Watson on November 27, 2013 at 1:07pm

Dana, what an excellent post and I couldn't agree more.  That pretty much sums it up.

To elaborate on Dana's comment, we should never underestimate the value of thinking outside the box and using our imagination.  I have a great recent example that relates to the swim/pitching jig conversation:

A former Elite Series pro, who decided to settle down and start a family a few years ago, now works at the Bass Pro Shop's corporate office in Springfield, MO.  He and his partner were pre-fishing for a Big Bass event recently at Lake of the Ozarks and dialed in a pattern for big fish using a 3/4 oz. TW jig, swimming it aggressively down the sides of boat docks.  My jig utilizes an Arkie "flipping/pitching"-style head, a 6/0 hook and 200 strands, far different than any "swim" jig you'll find on the market.  However, that big, bulky "pitching/flipping" jig swam along the dock edges was the one lure those big bass would come out and hammer.  A prime example of keeping an open mind and listening to the fish!

Permalink Reply by Jake Anderson on November 27, 2013 at 8:40pm

Joel,

I would agree with you 100% if I didn't fish for largemouth in February, March and April, and if I had confidence that the punch rig was as effective at landing and hooking fish as other methods.  

I will work on the punch rig probably this spring to see if last year was a string of bad luck, but for me, the punch rig is a rig of necessity dictated by cover rather than one of choice.

Love how it comes through cover.   Hate how it comes flying out of a fishes mouth.  Even when it does hook up, it is all over the place for me.  Half the time I hook the fish through the lower jaw.  Don't get me wrong... a fish in the boat is a fish in the boat, but I want it how I want it.  Ya dig?

Permalink Reply by Josh Potter on November 28, 2013 at 11:44am

So what you really meant to say is you don't need a pitching jig anymore. That's different than saying you can use one for both.

Joel Alinen said:

Sorry but I disagree I think a swimjig and a jig are much more similar than a crank and spinner potter. And snake when I'm fishing the crud I use a texas rig or a punch rig...I guess the point of the post was I don't see much use for the pitching jig anymore...swimjig and punch rig cover all the bases for me...at least they did this year...but in the past I've crushed em on the Pjs Potholes special...see I guess I can't decide when the pitching jig is "the deal"

Josh Potter said:

That seems like asking crank bait VS spinner bait. To me you wouldn't pick between the 2 because they are applied differently.

Permalink Reply by P.J. Koshi on November 28, 2013 at 12:00pm

Has anyone used the Keitech swim jig??? Just curious it looks interesting...

Permalink Reply by Joel Alinen on November 29, 2013 at 2:36pm

Pj I threw one one day this spring and that plastic screwlock broke pretty quickly. ..I think there are a lit of better swimjigs out there

Permalink Reply by Ronald Hobbs, Jr. on December 10, 2013 at 9:34pm

.....Science Teacher? And a square peg fits in a round hole...is that correct? Sorry couldn't help myself!


Joel Alinen said:

Sorry but I disagree I think a swimjig and a jig are much more similar than a crank and spinner potter. And snake when I'm fishing the crud I use a texas rig or a punch rig...I guess the point of the post was I don't see much use for the pitching jig anymore...swimjig and punch rig cover all the bases for me...at least they did this year...but in the past I've crushed em on the Pjs Potholes special...see I guess I can't decide when the pitching jig is "the deal"

Josh Potter said:

That seems like asking crank bait VS spinner bait. To me you wouldn't pick between the 2 because they are applied differently.

Permalink Reply by Joel Alinen on December 10, 2013 at 9:38pm

Some of the highest science test scores in the state:-)

Permalink Reply by Ronald Hobbs, Jr. on December 10, 2013 at 9:58pm

I use a lot of jigs.....lots of jigs, I think there are different benefits for each jig design....Tags story for example would those guys benefitted with a different head design and a lighter brush guard? If they were just swimming the jig I would say yes, but if the we're doing the famous post spawn rip (hook set) and fall....First intentions of a mop jig app...... maybe not. He said they were fishing it aggressively which I can assume alot of pops and rips, but how we're the fish eating it? On the fall or as it popped or at the dead spot between pop and fall or on straight retrieve. A lot of variables.

I love fishing swim jigs and Wolsky and I caught some serious fish on them in the last 5 years, tournament winning fish. But we have also caught tournament winning fish on flipping jigs.

IMO to say that they are the same is like saying ketchup is just like mustard.
Complimentary but very different.....
Some people only ketchup.....
Some people only mustard.....
Joel is one of these.......
Ketchup on a ham sandwich doesn't work.....
Mustard on French Fries doesn't work......
Hope you guys get my point....

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