Tapps....Late Fill?

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Permalink Reply by Mike Bess on April 2, 2010 at 9:42am

Interim flow requirements- the actual flows have not been established since the Dept. of Ecology has not issued the water right.
February 15th to March 14th- 525cfs
March 15th to March 31st -725cfs
April 1st to April 14th -775cfs
April 15th- 825cfs

The above flows have not been achieved due to a dry winter. The numbers above have to be exceeded by 100 CFS to divert water into the lake. This weekend with the weather moving in will help. Cascade now states that the lake will be at full pool by May 1st.

Permalink Reply by Zach Chandler on April 2, 2010 at 9:48am

Thanks Mike, this weather should really help

Mike Bess said:

Interim flow requirements- the actual flows have not been established since the Dept. of Ecology has not issued the water right.
February 15th to March 14th- 525cfs
March 15th to March 31st -725cfs
April 1st to April 14th -775cfs
April 15th- 825cfs

The above flows have not been achieved due to a dry winter. The numbers above have to be exceeded by 100 CFS to divert water into the lake. This weekend with the weather moving in will help. Cascade now states that the lake will be at full pool by May 1st.

Permalink Reply by Mike Bess on April 2, 2010 at 10:29am

Your are correct. Not sure what the numbers are but I think there are a total of 36 wild chinook that spawn in the White.

Misanthrope said:

Is that to preserve a fish run that has been extinct for 100 years?

Mike Bess said:

Interim flow requirements- the actual flows have not been established since the Dept. of Ecology has not issued the water right.
February 15th to March 14th- 525cfs
March 15th to March 31st -725cfs
April 1st to April 14th -775cfs
April 15th- 825cfs

The above flows have not been achieved due to a dry winter. The numbers above have to be exceeded by 100 CFS to divert water into the lake. This weekend with the weather moving in will help. Cascade now states that the lake will be at full pool by May 1st.

Permalink Reply by Eric DeLay on April 2, 2010 at 10:36am

I doubt that those are native fish though. My kid was just doing a report about the Green River Valley and we were reading that the White River and the Green River used to merge together and flow into Elliot Bay. A major flood back in the early 1900's diverted the outflow of the White River to Commencement Bay. I believe that wiped out the native runs of salmon in that river.

Mike Bess said:

Your are correct. Not sure what the numbers are but I think there are a total of 36 wild chinook that spawn in the White.

Misanthrope said:

Is that to preserve a fish run that has been extinct for 100 years?

Mike Bess said:

Interim flow requirements- the actual flows have not been established since the Dept. of Ecology has not issued the water right.
February 15th to March 14th- 525cfs
March 15th to March 31st -725cfs
April 1st to April 14th -775cfs
April 15th- 825cfs

The above flows have not been achieved due to a dry winter. The numbers above have to be exceeded by 100 CFS to divert water into the lake. This weekend with the weather moving in will help. Cascade now states that the lake will be at full pool by May 1st.

Permalink Reply by Mike Bess on April 2, 2010 at 10:46am

Its nice to know that you can comprehend on a 7th grade level.

Eric DeLay said:

I doubt that those are native fish though. My kid was just doing a report about the Green River Valley and we were reading that the White River and the Green River used to merge together and flow into Elliot Bay. A major flood back in the early 1900's diverted the outflow of the White River to Commencement Bay. I believe that wiped out the native runs of salmon in that river.

Mike Bess said:

Your are correct. Not sure what the numbers are but I think there are a total of 36 wild chinook that spawn in the White.

Misanthrope said:

Is that to preserve a fish run that has been extinct for 100 years?

Mike Bess said:

Interim flow requirements- the actual flows have not been established since the Dept. of Ecology has not issued the water right.
February 15th to March 14th- 525cfs
March 15th to March 31st -725cfs
April 1st to April 14th -775cfs
April 15th- 825cfs

The above flows have not been achieved due to a dry winter. The numbers above have to be exceeded by 100 CFS to divert water into the lake. This weekend with the weather moving in will help. Cascade now states that the lake will be at full pool by May 1st.

Permalink Reply by Willie Parsons on April 2, 2010 at 11:01am

How do you preserve something that is extinct?

Misanthrope said:

Is that to preserve a fish run that has been extinct for 100 years?

Mike Bess said:

Interim flow requirements- the actual flows have not been established since the Dept. of Ecology has not issued the water right.
February 15th to March 14th- 525cfs
March 15th to March 31st -725cfs
April 1st to April 14th -775cfs
April 15th- 825cfs

The above flows have not been achieved due to a dry winter. The numbers above have to be exceeded by 100 CFS to divert water into the lake. This weekend with the weather moving in will help. Cascade now states that the lake will be at full pool by May 1st.

Permalink Reply by Eric DeLay on April 2, 2010 at 11:59pm

It was my 6th grader douche and don't pretend like you didn't just learn something.

Mike Bess said:

Its nice to know that you can comprehend on a 7th grade level.

Eric DeLay said:

I doubt that those are native fish though. My kid was just doing a report about the Green River Valley and we were reading that the White River and the Green River used to merge together and flow into Elliot Bay. A major flood back in the early 1900's diverted the outflow of the White River to Commencement Bay. I believe that wiped out the native runs of salmon in that river.

Mike Bess said:

Your are correct. Not sure what the numbers are but I think there are a total of 36 wild chinook that spawn in the White.

Misanthrope said:

Is that to preserve a fish run that has been extinct for 100 years?

Mike Bess said:

Interim flow requirements- the actual flows have not been established since the Dept. of Ecology has not issued the water right.
February 15th to March 14th- 525cfs
March 15th to March 31st -725cfs
April 1st to April 14th -775cfs
April 15th- 825cfs

The above flows have not been achieved due to a dry winter. The numbers above have to be exceeded by 100 CFS to divert water into the lake. This weekend with the weather moving in will help. Cascade now states that the lake will be at full pool by May 1st.

Permalink Reply by 2000subaru on April 4, 2010 at 8:42am

With the help of local government....

Willie Parsons said:

How do you preserve something that is extinct?

Misanthrope said:

Is that to preserve a fish run that has been extinct for 100 years?

Mike Bess said:

Interim flow requirements- the actual flows have not been established since the Dept. of Ecology has not issued the water right.
February 15th to March 14th- 525cfs
March 15th to March 31st -725cfs
April 1st to April 14th -775cfs
April 15th- 825cfs

The above flows have not been achieved due to a dry winter. The numbers above have to be exceeded by 100 CFS to divert water into the lake. This weekend with the weather moving in will help. Cascade now states that the lake will be at full pool by May 1st.

Permalink Reply by Jason Brown on April 5, 2010 at 5:01pm

There was a big town meeting last weekend for those of us that live up here. Cascade water company is now saying they need more water than expected and won't be filling it to capacity. It's got the homeowners ticked something awful! It'll be full enough to get a boat in, but good luck run'n that thing and keeping your prop. Hopefully the pressure Cascade is getting will change their minds?

Permalink Reply by Ronald Hobbs, Jr. on April 5, 2010 at 5:13pm

Doesn't the White River turn into the Stuck River and then dump into the Puyallup River? So in actuality the White River dumps into the Puyallup and not Commencement. Yes the Puyallup River does but not the White or Stuck River. Technically speaking of course.

Eric DeLay said:

I doubt that those are native fish though. My kid was just doing a report about the Green River Valley and we were reading that the White River and the Green River used to merge together and flow into Elliot Bay. A major flood back in the early 1900's diverted the outflow of the White River to Commencement Bay. I believe that wiped out the native runs of salmon in that river.

Mike Bess said:

Your are correct. Not sure what the numbers are but I think there are a total of 36 wild chinook that spawn in the White.

Misanthrope said:

Is that to preserve a fish run that has been extinct for 100 years?

Mike Bess said:

Interim flow requirements- the actual flows have not been established since the Dept. of Ecology has not issued the water right.
February 15th to March 14th- 525cfs
March 15th to March 31st -725cfs
April 1st to April 14th -775cfs
April 15th- 825cfs

The above flows have not been achieved due to a dry winter. The numbers above have to be exceeded by 100 CFS to divert water into the lake. This weekend with the weather moving in will help. Cascade now states that the lake will be at full pool by May 1st.

Permalink Reply by Zach Chandler on April 5, 2010 at 5:17pm

That is Corrrreeeccctttt

Ronald Hobbs, Jr. said:

Doesn't the White River turn into the Stuck River and then dump into the Puyallup River? So in actuality the White River dumps into the Puyallup and not Commencement. Yes the Puyallup River does but not the White or Stuck River. Technically speaking of course.

Eric DeLay said:

I doubt that those are native fish though. My kid was just doing a report about the Green River Valley and we were reading that the White River and the Green River used to merge together and flow into Elliot Bay. A major flood back in the early 1900's diverted the outflow of the White River to Commencement Bay. I believe that wiped out the native runs of salmon in that river.

Mike Bess said:

Your are correct. Not sure what the numbers are but I think there are a total of 36 wild chinook that spawn in the White.

Misanthrope said:

Is that to preserve a fish run that has been extinct for 100 years?

Mike Bess said:

Interim flow requirements- the actual flows have not been established since the Dept. of Ecology has not issued the water right.
February 15th to March 14th- 525cfs
March 15th to March 31st -725cfs
April 1st to April 14th -775cfs
April 15th- 825cfs

The above flows have not been achieved due to a dry winter. The numbers above have to be exceeded by 100 CFS to divert water into the lake. This weekend with the weather moving in will help. Cascade now states that the lake will be at full pool by May 1st.

Permalink Reply by Mike Bess on April 5, 2010 at 5:17pm

There isn't any amount of pressure on Cascade that will make them deviate from what their mission is- make money by selling drinking water in the future. This is a business for them and they hold all of the cards. The lake will be full by May 1st according to Cascade.

Jason Brown said:

There was a big town meeting last weekend for those of us that live up here. Cascade water company is now saying they need more water than expected and won't be filling it to capacity. It's got the homeowners ticked something awful! It'll be full enough to get a boat in, but good luck run'n that thing and keeping your prop. Hopefully the pressure Cascade is getting will change their minds?

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