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Permalink Reply by Tag Watson on October 18, 2012 at 9:15pm

Hey PJ,

Great question regarding the powers.  Having owned some GLX rods, including a couple of the 894s, I can tell you the powers and actions are not apples to apples.  While the Lamiglas Infinity 735 has a good amount of power and backbone, it has a softer tip than the 894.  The fast action and softer tip gives this rod the versatility to pitch jigs and Texas Rigs, but could also double as a great square bill rod, where you need the forgiveness in the tip for accurate casts and allowing the fish to eat the bait well, but possesses the power to move big fish from cover.

I know this was not intended to be a Loomis vs. Lamiglas conversation, but PJ and Joel ask good comparison questions.  I own some Loomis swimbait rods and I think they are fantastic.  I've also fished the GLX flipping sticks quite a bit.  They are attractive, balanced, light, sensitive, powerful rods, but I have found over time that I prefer rods with more forgiveness that load further into the blank while fighting fish.  I recall Don had similar input in a thread a while back.  I really try to pay attention to the physics of the equipment I use to help put the odds in my favor.  I fish so little that I want to make sure I land good fish when I hook them.  I obviously don't land every single fish I hook each season, but I feel my bite/hook/land ratio is very high.  In conclusion, I think the action/power of the Infinity rods is ideal for hooking and landing fish, as well as offering the versatility for a variety of lures and techniques, based on my experience thus far.

P.J. Koshi said:

A question I have for Marc and Tag and anyone else with an in at Lamiglas is are they going to be standardizing their bass line to the Infinity and XPs?  Gloomis GLX has been around a long time, now they are changing it and that is going to cause some shake up as far as the die hard Loomis guys I am sure.  I used to fish Lamiglas rods a lot, but because of the inconsistency in the individual rods and the inconsistency in the rod lines I went primarily to St Croix and Loomis.  I know companies come out with new lines pretty often, but part of why I don't mind buying a high dollar rod is they usually come with a good warranty program.  If I break a rod and I go down to the manufacturer willing to pay the fee to get it replaced and they don't have it because the rod isn't made any longer it can be upsetting. I think Gloomis guys are starting to go through this now...

Another question I have is about powers.  Daniel says the model 735 is good for everything including cranks.  I am guessing he means large cranks because I assume that is a 5 power rod?  Which in my world means something that would be close in power to a GLX 894 (My primary pitching rod)... I would never consider fishing a crankbait on that rod. I believe that the Infinity 735 is a great jig rod, and I am guessing that is primarily what the rod is meant for in the lineup.

Permalink Reply by Dan Rice on October 18, 2012 at 9:33pm

PJ, you're absolutely right. Generally speaking, the 5 power rod is something most people use for jigs, carolina rigs and flipping/pitching.

I wanted to see how well it performed with deep divers - I'm talking 1-ounce crankbaits. I didn't get to load up with the deep cranks on any smallies, but it threw them without a sweat.

For jigs, flipping, creature baits and that sort...the Infinity 735C is a match made in heaven. Highly recommended.

P.J. Koshi said:

A question I have for Marc and Tag and anyone else with an in at Lamiglas is are they going to be standardizing their bass line to the Infinity and XPs?  Gloomis GLX has been around a long time, now they are changing it and that is going to cause some shake up as far as the die hard Loomis guys I am sure.  I used to fish Lamiglas rods a lot, but because of the inconsistency in the individual rods and the inconsistency in the rod lines I went primarily to St Croix and Loomis.  I know companies come out with new lines pretty often, but part of why I don't mind buying a high dollar rod is they usually come with a good warranty program.  If I break a rod and I go down to the manufacturer willing to pay the fee to get it replaced and they don't have it because the rod isn't made any longer it can be upsetting. I think Gloomis guys are starting to go through this now...

Another question I have is about powers.  Daniel says the model 735 is good for everything including cranks.  I am guessing he means large cranks because I assume that is a 5 power rod?  Which in my world means something that would be close in power to a GLX 894 (My primary pitching rod)... I would never consider fishing a crankbait on that rod. I believe that the Infinity 735 is a great jig rod, and I am guessing that is primarily what the rod is meant for in the lineup.

Permalink Reply by P.J. Koshi on October 18, 2012 at 10:21pm

Thanks Tag and Dan.  I look forward to getting my hands on some of these models to at least play with.  Every manufacture is different, but I know based on past experience Lamiglas rods are not rods you want to buy online.  Their actions and power ratings are unique and it's sometimes surprising how they fish.

Permalink Reply by Joel Alinen on October 18, 2012 at 11:09pm

Would you guys say the new Lami rods action are similar to the excel line? I personally felt the excel line ran a little lighter...meaning their 4 power was similar to most manufacturers 3 powers...and their 5 power was similar to most manufacturers 4 powers...is that still the case?

Permalink Reply by Tag Watson on October 19, 2012 at 6:36am

PJ, I agree 100% per some of the past models.  I would still recommend feeling the new rods first to determine which models have the power and action you are looking for.  I can tell you after feeling the full lineup of the Pro X and Infinity rods at the factory, Lamiglas has done a great job with the consistency of the power and action ratings in these two series.

Joel, the action (taper) of the Infinity line feels faster than the Excel line as a whole.  I would definitely say the power of the Infinity line is greater than that of the Excel rods for the number rating.  I still think it is a fair statement to make that the powers of the Infinity line run a little lighter than other manufacturers, like the examples you gave.

I'm not sure what the future expansion plans are for the Infinity lineup, but based on how exceptional the first five models feel, I would love to see a 7'5" or longer 6 Power rod for flipping/pitching and punching down the road.

Permalink Reply by Trevor Radach on October 19, 2012 at 7:59am

Good stuff guys! Thanks for the reviews Tag, Daniel and Marc. Can't wait to get one these. Tag, I have a xc 724 certified pro, how does the infinity 724c compare to that rod? Assuming you have used it?

Permalink Reply by mitch johnston on October 19, 2012 at 9:20am

you say all these great things about lamiglass but have you ever used there warrenty program?

well I have and it was a major disappointment!

I have a complete set of excells and love them except for the rod guides blowing out the ceramics. after landing the big fish at the nixon marine tourney this year (7.82 LM) the next cast my 7'11 excell snaped in half and yes we used a net to land the fish (didnt try to flip it) along with the broken rod I also had others that were missing the rod quide inserts. I sent the rods in right after the tourney and it took 4 months to get them fixed and the one rod replaced! So beware of the warrenty  you might have to go by new ones like I did so you have something to use while the take there time fixing them...

Permalink Reply by Tag Watson on October 19, 2012 at 10:12am

Hey Trevor, thank you for the question.  The XC724, “Senko Special” I believe it was called, was a good, versatile rod.  It had a nice tip and backbone, making it great for Senkos, lighter jigs and Texas rigs, spinnerbaits, flukes, football heads, tubes, smaller swimbaits, Carolina rigs, etc.

 

It has been a few years since I’ve fished the XC724, but based on memory, the Infinity 724C has a faster action and a bit more power.  While I really liked the Certified Pros, the Infinity rods are in a league of their own.  The combination of feel, comfort, weight, sensitivity, balance, power and action is superior to any rod I've fished.

 

One thing you will really enjoy is the feel of the handle and reel seat.  Extremely comfortable and top notch components/materials.

Permalink Reply by Trevor Radach on October 19, 2012 at 11:06am

Thanks Tag, I havent actually fished the rod much at all yet i just picked it up at the three rivers sale for $100 bucks. I think I'll stick with that xc724 for a little longer and pick up a 735c first

Permalink Reply by Nate on October 19, 2012 at 2:45pm

Wonder if the Pro X blank is the same they used for the Certified Pro??? Love those rods but they cut the handles too short on the casting models. Good to see Lamiglas finally taking a big step forward. Cant wait to get me hands on one.

Permalink Reply by Tag Watson on October 19, 2012 at 5:59pm

Hello Nathan,

The blank is definitely new and improved for the Pro X models.  Also, Lamiglas listened to angler feedback and has improved the handle length on their casting models for both new series of rods. 

Nathan Weed said:

Wonder if the Pro X blank is the same they used for the Certified Pro??? Love those rods but they cut the handles too short on the casting models. Good to see Lamiglas finally taking a big step forward. Cant wait to get me hands on one.

Permalink Reply by Joel Alinen on October 23, 2012 at 8:40pm

I also think David Dudley is part of the Lami team!
BigBass Dez said:

Also just found out that Justin Lucas has recently signed back up with the Lami team :) 

http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/justin-lucas-signs-with-lamiglas/

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