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I'm planning on spooling my dock pitchin rod up with 12 or 15lb Flouro. What do you guys think is the best for the money?

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P-Line 100% Fluoro, P-Line Halo, Seaguar InvizX, Seaguar AbrazX, Berkley Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon, Yamamoto Sugoi Fluorocarbon, Sunline FC Sniper, Vicious Fluorocarbon, Gamma Edge Fluoro.

Just giving you all the answers you will get in one reply to consolidate it for you.
I hope you don't plan on using the flouro on a spinning rod? All of the brand Tag mentioned are way too stiff for a spinning rod in the # tests you are looking for. You said pitching so I assuming you are talking about baitcasting equipment so the ones Tag mentioned are a good start.
Next time you ask a simple question first use the search key in the upper right hand of the screen it has a magnifying glass next to it. These are just a few of the topics I came up with and it might help you on your decision or just confuse you even more.

http://www.wafish.com/group/bassfishing/forum/topics/flurocarbon-line
http://www.wafish.com/group/bassfishing/forum/topics/flurocarbon-line
http://www.wafish.com/group/bassfishing/forum/topics/fluorocarbon-l...
http://www.wafish.com/group/bassfishing/forum/topics/line-question
http://www.wafish.com/group/bassfishing/forum/topics/fluorocarbon-v...
So in other words go with 15lb. I was leaning more to that side anyways i just think my 65lb braid is to heavy and fish see it in the water I fish.

I might lean towards P-Line Halo, or 100% flouro. Thanks
Do you ever use the larger stuff 15 or 17?



Craig Taylor said:
Right on man, I used P-line for years. Halo is killer stuff.

Spencer Durand said:
So in other words go with 15lb. I was leaning more to that side anyways i just think my 65lb braid is to heavy and fish see it in the water I fish.

I might lean towards P-Line Halo, or 100% flouro. Thanks
What about Toray Tag?:) Ron's right about using heavy Fluoro on any spinning rod, but it really isn't necessary in many cases. I wouldn't put any high quality Fluoro on a cheaper spinning reel, I think you will see more kinking from twisting, and a shortened life once it bends over in a knot. If you are going to use a cheaper spinning reel, you might want to try a braid to fluor leader like I use for my kids at certain times of the year, it seems like you always have extra Fluoro leader line. You have to watch kids with braid, if it wraps around the tip or guides, like it can, it can cost you a rod tip. I experienced this throwing Snag Proof frogs with my son this year when he was battling a largemouth at Potholes on braid, even so, best trip we had last year and he wouldnt have had a chance froggin with regualr mono in the weeds.
Toray Fluorocarbon in 6lb. is high end (Toray superfinesse and hi-grade for drop shotting around docks) but expensive, if you are making short pitches and it lasts a long time, it can be a wash. For casting in 12 and 14, Toray Upgrade for jigs and heavier stuff. I use Upgrade all year at Potholes, one spool with no worries, unless I mess up and kink it over.

The other option is braid to fluoro. Again, you get what you pay for, Toray braid is actually 8 strand technology and smaller than Power pro, and other older braid technologies. Older braids are 4 strand. Huge difference in sound and wear. Sufix came out with their 832. But they are not making it in lighter weights yet, they don't have the tech but are trying to get it as we speak. Right now, the two top braids are YGK and Toray, IMO. Again, all braids suck when you make an errand cast and need to dig out the knots- get your second rod out!

The worst part is, even if you buy the best Fluoro for docks, or best braid, you will still lose fish:(, which I guess it what takes us back to "for your money".






Tag Watson said:
P-Line 100% Fluoro, P-Line Halo, Seaguar InvizX, Seaguar AbrazX, Berkley Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon, Yamamoto Sugoi Fluorocarbon, Sunline FC Sniper, Vicious Fluorocarbon, Gamma Edge Fluoro.

Just giving you all the answers you will get in one reply to consolidate it for you.
You beat me to it Ron :)

Ronald Hobbs, Jr. said:
Next time you ask a simple question first use the search key in the upper right hand of the screen it has a magnifying glass next to it. These are just a few of the topics I came up with and it might help you on your decision or just confuse you even more.

http://www.wafish.com/group/bassfishing/forum/topics/flurocarbon-line
http://www.wafish.com/group/bassfishing/forum/topics/flurocarbon-line
http://www.wafish.com/group/bassfishing/forum/topics/fluorocarbon-l...
http://www.wafish.com/group/bassfishing/forum/topics/line-question
http://www.wafish.com/group/bassfishing/forum/topics/fluorocarbon-v...
And Toray! Thanks, Mikey!

Mike Matkowski said:
What about Toray Tag?:) Ron's right about using heavy Fluoro on any spinning rod, but it really isn't necessary in many cases. I wouldn't put any high quality Fluoro on a cheaper spinning reel, I think you will see more kinking from twisting, and a shortened life once it bends over in a knot. If you are going to use a cheaper spinning reel, you might want to try a braid to fluor leader like I use for my kids at certain times of the year, it seems like you always have extra Fluoro leader line. You have to watch kids with braid, if it wraps around the tip or guides, like it can, it can cost you a rod tip. I experienced this throwing Snag Proof frogs with my son this year when he was battling a largemouth at Potholes on braid, even so, best trip we had last year and he wouldnt have had a chance froggin with regualr mono in the weeds.
Toray Fluorocarbon in 6lb. is high end (Toray superfinesse and hi-grade for drop shotting around docks) but expensive, if you are making short pitches and it lasts a long time, it can be a wash. For casting in 12 and 14, Toray Upgrade for jigs and heavier stuff. I use Upgrade all year at Potholes, one spool with no worries, unless I mess up and kink it over.

The other option is braid to fluoro. Again, you get what you pay for, Toray braid is actually 8 strand technology and smaller than Power pro, and other older braid technologies. Older braids are 4 strand. Huge difference in sound and wear. Sufix came out with their 832. But they are not making it in lighter weights yet, they don't have the tech but are trying to get it as we speak. Right now, the two top braids are YGK and Toray, IMO. Again, all braids suck when you make an errand cast and need to dig out the knots- get your second rod out!

The worst part is, even if you buy the best Fluoro for docks, or best braid, you will still lose fish:(, which I guess it what takes us back to "for your money".






Tag Watson said:
P-Line 100% Fluoro, P-Line Halo, Seaguar InvizX, Seaguar AbrazX, Berkley Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon, Yamamoto Sugoi Fluorocarbon, Sunline FC Sniper, Vicious Fluorocarbon, Gamma Edge Fluoro.

Just giving you all the answers you will get in one reply to consolidate it for you.
The best Fluoro "for your money"? Check the bargin bins at K-Mart and Walmart.

I just had to say it.

There are many good products out there as has been mentioned by many of the good sticks on this site. You have to find what works for you and increases your confidence on the water.
They have made leaps and bound as far as changes since this!
All the companies had to. This competition in the market place is better for the consumer, since each company wants that share of sales, they had to offer thinner, softer, and all around better line than the competition.
What was considered good back then is ok today. The lower grades of flourocarbon of a few years back are usually the ones with the smaller price tags today, you know like the under $15 range. With flourocarbon lines in all my trials it seems that you get what you pay for. What you are willing to spend, limits the quality of a line you will get. For example the best Flouro I have ever used cost around the $40 for 105 yards! Am I willing to spend that day in and day out for all my reels? The answer is hell no!

My 3 choices around the semi affordable $20 price range would be Seaguar InvizX or AbrazX or the Berkley Proffessional Grade, which I shyed away from when it first came out but is quickly gaining my confidence back. Even though I like Pline products especially their CXX, their flourocarbons IMO are hard to manage on spinning reels and some instances baitcasters due to it being stiffer than some of the other brands. This is only the case when it is used as a main line, of course if you are using a top shot these problems would not exist.

John G said:
I have tried many Fluo & IMO the down sides & cost of Fluo are not worth it Now if I was fishing in big boy tourney then yes but for a club event or fun fishing nope.
I spent way to much time losing fish & dealing with line twist. Lot of lines are great at first but as they sit on the reel or you catch a few they show there true nature.
I do use it on my crank bait rod & some times I will do the braid to Fluo but the knot does effect the cast when passing the guides Bottom line I catch just as many big fish with out it.
Read this & yes I know they have made improvements on the lines since this.
http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbon2.html
I agree with Ron, the AbrazX and InvisX are both quality lines at a reasonable price. I used to be sold on the Piline 100% and Halo, but moved away from it since the price went up and it didn't seem to do as well on the spinning reels. I've also had good luck with the trilene 100% flouro for my pitching/flipping rods in 20-25lb, but once you get to that size it probably doesn't make as much of a difference, more of a confidence thing really.
I think you both hit it RIGHT on the head. P-line is what I'm thinking about going for but im going to head over to sportco or Auburn Sports and looka t tall of them. I'm still deciding on whether or not im going to get 15# or 17# just more of a confidence thing then. Mostly I'm pitching and flipping timber and docks, or using my spinning real on beds. But that has 8# and i'm not going to change that anytime soon. But, I have never snapped on hook sets so im pretty proud as i went from mono to braid on my pitching rod just last year but i'm not full impressed with the braid cause it is too heavy. What do you guys prefer for these situations? Like the one i'm in. Having to choose a line # for the flipping and pitching i'm doing, like i said mostly docks and timber, but the occasional grass, and thick pads if i'm in the correct lake. And this rod will be used for mostly largies. and the lake i mostly pitch at is pretty good for larger fish.

Thanks for all that could help a Young'n,
Spencer


Jordan Doucet said:
I agree with Ron, the AbrazX and InvisX are both quality lines at a reasonable price. I used to be sold on the Piline 100% and Halo, but moved away from it since the price went up and it didn't seem to do as well on the spinning reels. I've also had good luck with the trilene 100% flouro for my pitching/flipping rods in 20-25lb, but once you get to that size it probably doesn't make as much of a difference, more of a confidence thing really.

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