How much skill does it take

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Permalink Reply by Josh Potter on August 27, 2009 at 9:08am

This started out sa such a good subject. How did I know it would end up filled with weiner jokes?

Permalink Reply by Zackery Shaff on August 27, 2009 at 12:14pm

Fish the BASS Fed Nation or TBF qualifiers if you want to know. It will make you better and put your skills into perspective. I just went out with Brian Walters and Aaron Echternkamp and I think I know what I need to do to get better.

Permalink Reply by Russ Baker on August 27, 2009 at 12:16pm

Marc,

You make some very good points. I like the one about Legends in their own minds. I see a lot of those guys come and go.

The one characteristic I don't see that some of the top sticks in this state dont portray is a willingness to make a contribution to the game, their communities, etc.

All they do is take,take,take and Im not talking about the money.

Basspro

Permalink Reply by nitroman on August 27, 2009 at 12:49pm

Yeah russ i know what your saying. I was camping in boardman oregon the night before the last nw bass and had one of those guy next to the group i was with. 21 foot boat and all the toys you could buy and was as big as a house. Well he had a problem with our pre tounament beers and bbq. He came over and started freakin out saying hes been doing this for 15 years and spends a lot of money on fishing tounaments. and needed to get a good night sleep. Im not going to say what his name is but ive never seen his name in the 30% of any tournament.And he didnt seem to be having any fun at all . but you wouldnt believe the guys who tried to beat me up on this web site when i mention a 21 foot boat and cant see over their belt. It just shows who they really are.

Permalink Reply by Jake Anderson on August 27, 2009 at 2:51pm

Bess:

There are always exceptions to every theory. If there werent it would just be considered scientific law.

I think this thread in and of itself supports my theory.....that the most intelligent fisherman are able to learn, and take their own lessons to the next stop. Then there are the "other" guys....the gents who don't realize that doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

Now....you may think there are some dummies out there who are great fisherman....It may just be your perception that they are in fact dummies. There are many ways to measure intellect.

Permalink Reply by Shawn O'Connell on August 27, 2009 at 4:04pm

Personally I think it takes more skill than I have come up with yet! I will say however that my buddy and I learn every tournament and once in a while we even think we are getting pretty good. That is usually followed up by getting our ass handed to us at the next tourney.
The guys that are consistently on top have learned how to adapt when things change. I think there are definitely guys who have something genetic going on but I also think that time on the water and being honest with yourself on how you are actually doing is key. I know personally I have water close to home that I can go catch the heck out of them. It is hard to make myself go elsewhere and learn new water and patterns. I think many of the top finishers have made themselves do this and that is part of what sets them apart.

Permalink Reply by Josh Potter on August 27, 2009 at 4:41pm

Shawn touched on something when he wrote about forcing your self to fish new water. That is exactly what a tournament schedule does. It forces you to fish places you may not have fished otherwise. Just one of a long list of reasons to get started down the trail even if you don't think you are ready. You may never get ready unless you are forced to.

Permalink Reply by Russ Baker on August 27, 2009 at 5:05pm

Jon,

Nope just joined this fine group of bass chasers and didn't see that Warrior post. But have been fishing tourneys since the early 70's and notice a lot of good sticks never ever make a contribution. Its par for the coarse. I'm not saying all good sticks dont make a contribution it just seems that a larger percentage of them get so selfish that making a contribution is hard for them to do.

Russ

Jon Sessler said:

Russ,

You must not pay attention, look at the post on the Warriors event. Hobbs, Wolsky, Abbott, Flowers, and Phil Johnson were there volunteering their time, money, tackle, and fuel.

These ARE some of the top sticks in the state.

Russ Baker said:

Marc,

You make some very good points. I like the one about Legends in their own minds. I see a lot of those guys come and go.

The one characteristic I don't see that some of the top sticks in this state dont portray is a willingness to make a contribution to the game, their communities, etc.

All they do is take,take,take and Im not talking about the money.

Basspro

Permalink Reply by Misanthrope on August 27, 2009 at 5:57pm

Nitrofag had that experience in jail. At first he was forced to try it, but it really ended up opening some doors for him.

Josh Potter said:

Shawn touched on something when he wrote about forcing your self to fish new water. That is exactly what a tournament schedule does. It forces you to fish places you may not have fished otherwise. Just one of a long list of reasons to get started down the trail even if you don't think you are ready. You may never get ready unless you are forced to.

Permalink Reply by nitroman on August 27, 2009 at 6:24pm

No never been in jail before but i do love the seed of a mans loins all over my chest just ask your father . but you would know all about that from your childhood

PigPuller said:

Nitrofag had that experience in jail. At first he was forced to try it, but it really ended up opening some doors for him.

Josh Potter said:

Shawn touched on something when he wrote about forcing your self to fish new water. That is exactly what a tournament schedule does. It forces you to fish places you may not have fished otherwise. Just one of a long list of reasons to get started down the trail even if you don't think you are ready. You may never get ready unless you are forced to.

Permalink Reply by Misanthrope on August 27, 2009 at 6:58pm

This is getting embarrassing.
You are doing a better job of making fun of you than I am.
It is amazing that you keep fighting. You get crushed over and over but just keep coming back for more.
Keep it up grundle muncher.

nitroman said:

No never been in jail before but i do love the seed of a mans loins all over my chest just ask your father . but you would know all about that from your childhood

PigPuller said:

Nitrofag had that experience in jail. At first he was forced to try it, but it really ended up opening some doors for him.

Josh Potter said:

Shawn touched on something when he wrote about forcing your self to fish new water. That is exactly what a tournament schedule does. It forces you to fish places you may not have fished otherwise. Just one of a long list of reasons to get started down the trail even if you don't think you are ready. You may never get ready unless you are forced to.

Permalink Reply by Josh Potter on August 27, 2009 at 9:33pm

Russ,

I 'm not being antagonistic here but elaborate for us. What do you feel would be a contribution to the game? A couple for examples if you would. I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily. I just don't know what you mean.

Russ Baker said:

Jon,

Nope just joined this fine group of bass chasers and didn't see that Warrior post. But have been fishing tourneys since the early 70's and notice a lot of good sticks never ever make a contribution. Its par for the coarse. I'm not saying all good sticks dont make a contribution it just seems that a larger percentage of them get so selfish that making a contribution is hard for them to do.

Russ

Jon Sessler said:

Russ,

You must not pay attention, look at the post on the Warriors event. Hobbs, Wolsky, Abbott, Flowers, and Phil Johnson were there volunteering their time, money, tackle, and fuel.

These ARE some of the top sticks in the state.

Russ Baker said:

Marc,

You make some very good points. I like the one about Legends in their own minds. I see a lot of those guys come and go.

The one characteristic I don't see that some of the top sticks in this state dont portray is a willingness to make a contribution to the game, their communities, etc.

All they do is take,take,take and Im not talking about the money.

Basspro

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