Jerkbait Rigging?

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Permalink Reply by cody hampton on January 14, 2010 at 11:00am

I use the 4/0 EWG Gamakatsu thin wire hooks and those work great.

Joel Alinen said:

What size and style hook do you guys use?

Permalink Reply by David Parnicky on January 14, 2010 at 11:12am

I always was under the understanding that red triggered a predatory instinct in fish. Maybe due to the fact it looked like blood, I am unsure why exactly. I believed that since fish are looking for an easy meal, theoretically they are programmed to attack when they see red because it represents something wrong with the bait. I think this is the idea that started the red hook craze. I just think that having the right hook that will get a solid hookset on the fish and keep it hooked all the way to the boat along with the bait that is on the hook is much more important than the hook color. Then again though, if it gets you one extra big bite in a day, it may be worth it to use a red hook. I personally haven't seen a big enough difference to notice though, would be interesting to hear more thoughts on the red hook concept.

BigBass Dez said:

Hey David ,

Interesting comment you made about the Red & Black Hooks !! For years if have used Red mainly from prespawn through the spawn targeting Bass in 1-12ft if water ! However after the Spawn has occured i which back to my standard Black Hooks . Its more of a confendence factor on my part , I assume that by using red in shallow Water colums im giving bass a Better Visual Target area on my Hook wheather it be on EWG or TREBS .. I still to this day wonder if using Red is an advantage or just another Myth ?????

David Parnicky said:

Many use 4/O or 5/O with the super fluke. I use the 3/O EWG Gamakatsu. It seems to work well to me. I never could decide on red or black. I used to use red, lately I have been using black. I haven't noticed one color working better than the other. I like the idea behind red but I almost think I get better quality on the black hook. That could be all in my head though.

Joel Alinen said:

What size and style hook do you guys use?

Permalink Reply by Zackery Shaff on January 14, 2010 at 11:48am

Red and Black hooks are simply another factor you can change day to day, depending upon the water conditions. Its the same with cranks too, I use red trebles sometimes, and black others, sometimes two red trebs, sometimes one, depending upon conditions and feedback from the fish. This is easiest to experiment with when you have a partner.

Permalink Reply by Don Hogue on January 14, 2010 at 6:09pm

So how would you explain red line?

David Parnicky said:

I always was under the understanding that red triggered a predatory instinct in fish. Maybe due to the fact it looked like blood, I am unsure why exactly. I believed that since fish are looking for an easy meal, theoretically they are programmed to attack when they see red because it represents something wrong with the bait. I think this is the idea that started the red hook craze. I just think that having the right hook that will get a solid hookset on the fish and keep it hooked all the way to the boat along with the bait that is on the hook is much more important than the hook color. Then again though, if it gets you one extra big bite in a day, it may be worth it to use a red hook. I personally haven't seen a big enough difference to notice though, would be interesting to hear more thoughts on the red hook concept.

BigBass Dez said:

Hey David ,

Interesting comment you made about the Red & Black Hooks !! For years if have used Red mainly from prespawn through the spawn targeting Bass in 1-12ft if water ! However after the Spawn has occured i which back to my standard Black Hooks . Its more of a confendence factor on my part , I assume that by using red in shallow Water colums im giving bass a Better Visual Target area on my Hook wheather it be on EWG or TREBS .. I still to this day wonder if using Red is an advantage or just another Myth ?????

David Parnicky said:

Many use 4/O or 5/O with the super fluke. I use the 3/O EWG Gamakatsu. It seems to work well to me. I never could decide on red or black. I used to use red, lately I have been using black. I haven't noticed one color working better than the other. I like the idea behind red but I almost think I get better quality on the black hook. That could be all in my head though.

Joel Alinen said:

What size and style hook do you guys use?

Permalink Reply by David Parnicky on January 14, 2010 at 6:37pm

Haha! Good point! I don't know a thing about red line though. I have never used it. I like my fluorocarbon and green mono and copoly.

Don Hogue said:

So how would you explain red line?

David Parnicky said:

I always was under the understanding that red triggered a predatory instinct in fish. Maybe due to the fact it looked like blood, I am unsure why exactly. I believed that since fish are looking for an easy meal, theoretically they are programmed to attack when they see red because it represents something wrong with the bait. I think this is the idea that started the red hook craze. I just think that having the right hook that will get a solid hookset on the fish and keep it hooked all the way to the boat along with the bait that is on the hook is much more important than the hook color. Then again though, if it gets you one extra big bite in a day, it may be worth it to use a red hook. I personally haven't seen a big enough difference to notice though, would be interesting to hear more thoughts on the red hook concept.

BigBass Dez said:

Hey David ,

Interesting comment you made about the Red & Black Hooks !! For years if have used Red mainly from prespawn through the spawn targeting Bass in 1-12ft if water ! However after the Spawn has occured i which back to my standard Black Hooks . Its more of a confendence factor on my part , I assume that by using red in shallow Water colums im giving bass a Better Visual Target area on my Hook wheather it be on EWG or TREBS .. I still to this day wonder if using Red is an advantage or just another Myth ?????

David Parnicky said:

Many use 4/O or 5/O with the super fluke. I use the 3/O EWG Gamakatsu. It seems to work well to me. I never could decide on red or black. I used to use red, lately I have been using black. I haven't noticed one color working better than the other. I like the idea behind red but I almost think I get better quality on the black hook. That could be all in my head though.

Joel Alinen said:

What size and style hook do you guys use?

Permalink Reply by Damon Hollandsworth on January 14, 2010 at 11:25pm

I dont know if this is true or not but i watched on a commercial for cajun line i believe its called that red is invisible underwater which i dont know if this is true or not but if it is red hooks would be pointless. In the hook department i just use standard black. I have tried red hooks and have seen know difference so i just stick with the standard black hooks.

Permalink Reply by BigBass Dez on January 15, 2010 at 8:48am

IMO red is not invisible under water , what some dont realize is that Red is only visible up to a "certain" depth !! If you noticed above i mentioned that i only go red for hooks a particular time of year while targeting fish that are on beds or starting to move up ! Whats a really cool thing to do when you get some time on your hands is to study how "ALL" colors appear at different depths , After doing my homework , i now have a clear understanding of why certain colors through out the coarse of a season ,spring (0-10ft)through winter(25-50ft) you can stay dailed in on "strong" colors year round ..

Damon Hollandsworth said:

I dont know if this is true or not but i watched on a commercial for cajun line i believe its called that red is invisible underwater which i dont know if this is true or not but if it is red hooks would be pointless. In the hook department i just use standard black. I have tried red hooks and have seen know difference so i just stick with the standard black hooks.

Permalink Reply by Brian Calvert on January 15, 2010 at 4:02pm

Does anyone use the double fluke rig with a sliding swivel on the main line? And do you think the weight suggestions mentioned previously would work on this rigging?

Permalink Reply by BigBass Dez on January 15, 2010 at 4:52pm

Brian ,

Years ago i use to run a rig simular to this one . Mines however was a LC pointer with a 2-3ft leader connecting with a Fluke .. Now that i think about it , im not sure why i havent used it out here yet ..lol hey whats a sliding swivel ?

Permalink Reply by Brian Calvert on January 15, 2010 at 9:09pm

From my understanding, take a barrel swivel and tie on a leader, hook and fluke. You then take the untied end of the swivel and slide it onto your main line, then tie on your other hook to the main line. the idea is that the swivel slides freely up and down your main line. here is my attempt at a diagram.

Permalink Reply by Jake Boomer on January 19, 2010 at 9:18am

The water filters out the colors from the light spectrum at different intervals. The color red is usually filtered out within 10' feet of water, where orange isn't completely gone until 25'. The variable here is water clarity and available sun. In super clear water, with the sun out high in the sky, you can see red pretty easily in 1-5' of water. During my scuba days, if we wanted to see the true color of something at 50', we'd hit it with a spot light. Red would show right back up. Without the spotlight, red looks brown.

So in ultra clear water, with the sun up high in the sky, red is probably still visible at 5-10', although not very vivid. On a drab cloudy or windy day, you can bet your red hook looks brown to the fish after 2-3'.

Knowing what water does to the color red, I have never bought a red hook or Cajun line. Something to really think about, is mr. smallmouth's environment. I'm not exactly sure how the eye of a SM works, but I'm pretty sure they don't carry underwater flashlights. So if they're hunting injured bait fish in 10' of water, they're probably guessing the brown liquid coming from the gills is blood. What might confuse mr. smallmouth is the brown "Cajun" line attached to the bait, and leading back to my Quest Pro Tackle Football Head Special.... (you owe me one for that Innoskinny.)

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