Line question

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Permalink Reply by Brian Walters on February 23, 2009 at 5:33pm

I have been using Toray hi class and suprehard for a while now and it is by far the best line I have ever touched, no problems with abrassion or breaking, great knot strength, and high break strength and low diameter. Befor that I used P line and like it for most open water apps. It is a little weak once it gets nicked and doesnt do well in cover for that reason. But all in all there are a ton of great lines out there just find the one that works for you. I do believe there is not a line that is great for all apps. Like diffrent line for pithcing or for open water, etc.

Brian Bassguy Walters

Permalink Reply by Tag Watson on February 23, 2009 at 6:24pm

Smalljaws,

Prepare for a dozen different answers to this one.

I have been using the P-Line 100% fluorocarbon since its release and have been very pleased with the performance of this product. I personally have not experienced any of the problems Brian is referring to regarding abrasion resistance or issues with fishing heavy cover. In fact, I have found that this line holds up to the most rigorous conditions. A quick testimonial for whatever it's worth: At Lake El Salto I run the 17 lb. for my crankbaits and 20 lb. for all other techniques, with the exception of my topwater lures. This lake is full of rocks and trees. I have landed somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 fish 10 lbs. or larger there without one single line failure. I will retie after a big fish and check my line periodically, but I am often flipping to the heart of the gnarliest trees I can find and yanking out quality fish.

I know your question relates to NW bass fishing and this line has performed beautifully for me up here for countless techniques and all line sizes. I don't always figure out how to catch them, but I never have to worry about my line.

Keep in mind, the P-Line 100% fluoro has a smaller diameter per lb. test than most fluorocarbons on the market. For example, the P-Line 8# test is equivalent in diameter to Berkley's 6#. I think it is important to compare apples to apples in regards to line diameter vs. lb. test. The P-Line is also a relatively good price point for what I consider to be a premium quality line.

That being said, there are many good fluorocarbon lines on the market and like both you and Brian mentioned, it really boils down to personal preference. I have heard excellent reviews on Seaguar, Toray, Berkley Trilene 100%, Sugoi, Gamma, etc.

Permalink Reply by Jordan Doucet on February 23, 2009 at 6:43pm

I'm with Tag,
I really like the PLine 100% flouro as well as the PLine Halo. I run this line for all sizes from 6lb for dropshotting to 20lb for flippin' jigs and big texas rigs in the junk. Most my experience comes with the 6-12lb lines for deep smallies though and I haven't had any issues. As Tag mentioned alot of lines are bigger diameter than what the poundage should be, Maxima is notorious for this, for example 6lb really has the diameter of 7 or 8lb. It's really just a marketing scheme to make people think their line is stronger, but thats another conversation.

I am goin to give the trilene fouro and berkley vanish transition a run through this year though. The transition appeals to me for when I'm dead sticking a drop shot, shakey head, flick shake or senko and watching the line for the slightest bites. Just my 2 cents.

Great topic
-J

Permalink Reply by Mike Stahlman on February 23, 2009 at 6:51pm

Jordan I have tried the Vanish from Berkley and did not care much for it. I broke off on hook sets a bunch. I just started using the Berkley 100% last year and love it. I have not had the problems with breaking off near as much as in the past.

Maybe if i wasn't a bull in a china cabinet I wouldn't break my line either? My .02

Permalink Reply by troy kelly on February 23, 2009 at 6:52pm

well i havent tried them all mainly cause some of that stuff is like a buck a yard :). i have fished vicious flourocarbon for about the past year and for the money I like it. I've heard good things about trilene 100% floro so I will probably try that next and see how i like it.

Permalink Reply by Shawn O'Connell on February 23, 2009 at 8:01pm

I also us PLine 100% Fluoro. It's just hard to beat. I do wish there was a cheaper alternative. I recently just made an order to restock my line at the tune of $250.00. Ouch!

Permalink Reply by Willie Parsons on February 23, 2009 at 8:03pm

I toyed with the Vanish for a very short period, it didn't make the cut for me. The memory of it was horrific and when it dried out it was like dry grass on the reel. I had to dunk the reel in the water if it dried out or it was a nasty mess, and it didn't seem to hold knots well. Has anyone tried the XPS flouro that KVD touts? I assume he changes all line every day, and gets paid by Bass Pro Shops, but he says it's the best...just curious. As Tag has said on numerous occasions, there is no excuse for poor line maint. and poorly tied knots so these have to come into play for line choice.

Jordan Doucet said:

I'm with Tag,
I really like the PLine 100% flouro as well as the PLine Halo. I run this line for all sizes from 6lb for dropshotting to 20lb for flippin' jigs and big texas rigs in the junk. Most my experience comes with the 6-12lb lines for deep smallies though and I haven't had any issues. As Tag mentioned alot of lines are bigger diameter than what the poundage should be, Maxima is notorious for this, for example 6lb really has the diameter of 7 or 8lb. It's really just a marketing scheme to make people think their line is stronger, but thats another conversation.

I am goin to give the trilene fouro and berkley vanish transition a run through this year though. The transition appeals to me for when I'm dead sticking a drop shot, shakey head, flick shake or senko and watching the line for the slightest bites. Just my 2 cents.

Great topic
-J

Permalink Reply by Mike Stahlman on February 23, 2009 at 8:16pm

Smalljaws I have also tried the XPS Flourocarbon and like Vanish it had a horrible memory. I was spraying both types with silicone spray and still didn't seem to help for me.

I have yet to try P-line flouro. I may have to try it.

Permalink Reply by D.J. LaRoche on February 23, 2009 at 9:50pm

I also like the 100% fluoro. P-Line is a close second for me as I have fished it with very similar results. I just put on Triple Fish fluoro, and will see how that works out. I also bought a couple of spools of the Vicious. These last two are half the price, so hopefully I can find a use for them. This stuff gets way too expensive to be respooling as often as you should be doing, but the benefits far outweigh the negatives in my opinion.

Permalink Reply by Marc Marcantonio on February 23, 2009 at 10:47pm

I have yet to find a better fluorocarbon than Sugoi, but it is expensive. On the other hand, it lasts a lot longer than any other I have tried, making it economical over its life. I have caught many big fish on Sugoi 6lb test, including several IGFA line class records and world records. This stuff is good, and all of my dropshotting and pitching is done with Sugoi Fluorocarbon.

ciao,
Marc

Permalink Reply by Abbottola on February 24, 2009 at 12:08am

Great question. I'd be interested in seeing how people respond to this. I've really enjoyed the P-Line Halo. I've just recently started using it for bass, but used it last year for Steelhead and had no issues except with some problems with line twists. Rob and I used 8lb. Halo at the Freeze your Bass Blast event for the first time in a tournament situation and so far we trust it. I couldn't tell you anything about knot strength because I haven't tested it.

Permalink Reply by islandbass on February 24, 2009 at 1:47am

SeaGuar's Invixz for me in 6# test. For those that don't know this, as with mono, there are a variety of FC lines that have traits ranging from stiff to limp.

At 6# test, Invixz is limp and seems somewhat stretchy and these two characteristics are precisely why I like it so much. I get the refractive index advantage fc offers and the give that I like in monofilament line. I also believe that this limpness aids somewhat in minimizing the "jumping" off of the spool that the stiffer lines might do on spinning reels. Not a problem with shimano reels anyway however.

I use it primarily for drop shotting. So factor in that different FC lines can possess different traits so that you don't purchase one with traits you do not want. No vanish in my arsenal. To use that line is just plain wrong. They ought to call it "Poof!" because that is what the fish is going to do. Had a repeatable near-bad experience with it.

I have also tried Cabela's and have just spooled Cajun FC back in December but have not had a chance to try the latter.

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